In the end the institutional religions becomes obsolete and they disappears as they nearly are in Northern Europe, leaving the religion and moral to man self. Its not going particularly well just now, but we can hope we grow with the challenge.

The fighting is normally not between religions, it is between to powers, who might use the religion as an excuse, but without religion, there would still have been a war.

Discrimination is normally not inherent in the religions, there is only one religion I am aware of that will convert with violence, but stupidity and poverty has again used the religion as a excuse. It’s typically those who knows least about their religion, who are the worst troublemakers.

The only real religious warfare I know of is the Hindu’s elimination of the Buddhist’s all over India. But I don’t know the details, so I could be wrong and it was also of political origin.

The fights in the Northern Island I see as a Nationalistic strife, not as a religious strife. The combatants know more about political views than religious views.

When Turkey was strongest and Muslim still had a strong literary culture they attacked Europe, taking a country one by one. At that time there where only one thing who could unify Europe against the attacking forces, and that was the pope. But the pope couldn’t say to the kings, go help your former enemies against the Turks, they wouldn’t. So the pope said: Go free the Holy Land, and in that way he unified the powers of Europe against the attacking Turk Empire.

As the religions grew weaker and weaker the political ideologies took over, and as they had no morality in their base teachings, it was a lot better weapon in the toolbox of the persons in power, as we have seen with Nazism and Communism, never has so many people been killed in a conflict before.

Now these ideologies have weakened and two new powers have risen: Western Democracies (and Capitalism) contra Islam. The people of Islam has destroyed their own high literary culture through an Orthodox priesthood who sees other literature than the Quran as the work of the devil. But before that, they saved a lot of our European literature where we destroyed it ourselves, and we received it from them again when we got to our senses.

The orthodox Muslims, who see them selves as the selected people, can’t understand that the non believers in the western societies can live in luxury, while they themselves lives in poverty. That power together with oil money is the reason for our ‘religious’ crisis as we have it now. It is really a fight between Orthodox Muslims and Western decadence, and secondly between Democracies and Sharia.

It’s not a war between Christianity and Islam, it’s between Islam and the Capitalistic countries, and especially US, as it’s the most visible capitalistic country shoving it’s decadence through Hollywood. The two towers was chosen as the goal through their symbolic value (World Trade C.) By the way, they are building higher and higher buildings in the Golf States to show their superiority, so it really means something for them.

It can be seen that its not a fight between Christianity and Islam as such, as many Muslims in Denmark send their kids in Christian schools in stead of the public schools, as the Christian schools have a moral which is more like their wishes. The most Orthodox sends of course their children to a Muslim school.

I have a WordPress page where I try to compare different religious systems on their core ideas:
http://kimgraaemunch.wordpress.com

I am not sure that there are many Christians in Europe who would fight for their religion, the Churches is good for weddings and funerals but not much in between.

The real religious people have a personal relation to God and don’t subscribe to a Church or other religious institutions.

Kind Regards,
Kim

Interesting observations.

You know, that if every religion was different from all the others, the non believers would have a case, because all of the religions could not be right, they have to be different views on the same spiritual reality to have any meaning.

Many of the ‘persons’ in different religions may be the same, as Zarathustra and Abraham (WikiPedia).

You will find the “Son of God” in nearly all religions, and in many religions you will also have at Mother and Father Deity, even if she is somewhat hidden. By the way, Christ is a little odd as he is also called “Son of Man”, and that differs from most other religions.

The funny thing about “The Son of God” is that we are all a Son of God.

You wil also find the words “Son of a Widow” in many religions, and that is maybe a little more difficult to explain.

Have a Nice New Year,
Kim Graae Munch

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I do thank you for your intelligent, considered and insightful comments which have provided me much food for thought. If you care to continue the debate privately feel free to contact me at jackyridley@hotmail.com

I’m sure there’s much much more to say on this exceptionally interesting topic.

The spirit of academic debate is obviously alive and well in Australia – as it is – hopefully, in Canada.

Cheers Mate!

But even if he does prove that cosmic rays cause clouds which cause global cooling, it still doesn’t change one simple fact – cosmic radiation levels have been steady since 1950. And yet temperatures started rising in the 70’s which is why the Max Planck Institute concluded there’s been no correlation between temperature and cosmic ray flux since 1970.

Statements like “CO2 model is now the politically correct model” are missing the point. Put all politics aside and look at the science – you cannot explain the global warming over the past 3 decades without CO2. We see great correlation between solar activity and earth’s climate in the past but in the last 30 years of global warming, solar radiation and cosmic rays have shown no long term trend.